tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post114537310218490261..comments2023-10-20T04:57:35.975-07:00Comments on Daily Views, Pop Culture, Rants and News: My Take on Mtv's "Greatest MC's of All Time" List.The Humanity Critichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17952770577150500798noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1161504099914202852006-10-22T01:01:00.000-07:002006-10-22T01:01:00.000-07:00The MTV list is a joke, a complete mockery of hiph...The MTV list is a joke, a complete mockery of hiphop history<BR/>They don't know good hiphop if it had a heart attack and died right in front of them<BR/>Those idiots at MTV need to stop plugging Jay's garbage....<BR/>Mainstream commercial rubbish!<BR/><BR/>First off, when u say the "greatest MC" you're talking about lyrical dexterity, not commercial popularity nor sales...<BR/>With that said, pop artist Jay Z is definitely off the list<BR/>Ppl like him due to his beats, yet completely overlook his lyrics (which are somewhat good, but that's pushing it)<BR/>U know therez something wrong with an MC when he get's invited to the Kids Choice Awards....what a joke<BR/>In addition, if he were as good as they make him out to be, he'd be able to spit 70+ bars with nasty flow and metaphors to spare, which I doubt he could...haha<BR/><BR/>Next, just because you had drama and beef going doesn't mean that you can just jump on the "greatest MC" list<BR/>Pac was an icon, sure, but to say that he was an amazing MC, never<BR/>His lyrics were poor, his methaphors and similes were weak, and his flow was meager<BR/>Basically, he doesn't hold a candle to my list<BR/>He's off the list<BR/>Remember, we're talking about the greatest MC, impact-symbolism-and popularity mean nothing<BR/>If this were a most popular hiphop artist, or hiphop icon of all time, he'd be on the list...but since its not, he gets my boot<BR/><BR/>Big was great, a lil too commercial for my taste (especially with P muddy hitching a ride on the Biggie bandwagon)<BR/>but great nonetheless<BR/>Anyone that say's Pac was better than Big is either stupid or deaf<BR/>Big is great and deserves to be on the list, though not at #3<BR/><BR/>To rank Rakim at 4 is a crime, a sin to tha hiphop gods<BR/>He's top 2....<BR/>This man could spit 70 bars, and still hit u a nasty metaphor on the 69th<BR/>The essence of MC is Rakim<BR/>He's influenced everyone since him, and even everyone b4 him<BR/>To all the kids, go out and at least sample something from "Paid In Full"<BR/>That should be enough to enlighten you ppl<BR/>Some ppl become good MC's, others are just born to be MC's<BR/>Rakim was writing and spitting in his mother's womb, nuff said<BR/><BR/>Nas is great also, though after Illmatic, his stuff started to fall and fall and fall<BR/>He's got skill, yet it seems that he's confused on the role that he should take on<BR/>Popular artist or true MC?<BR/>The man has skill, but he's shown his inconsistency<BR/>He's still on my list, though low<BR/>Nas > Jay Z<BR/><BR/>KRS 1 is one of the greats to ever rock the mic<BR/>His skill is unmatched<BR/>All the kids that neglect him should go out and cop his early stuff (might not like it, but it'll definitely show u that Jay Z is a child compared to KRS)<BR/>Top 3<BR/><BR/>Not a big fan of Big Daddy Kane, but he still get's my respect<BR/>He's amazing, his lyrics blow u away<BR/>And the fact that modern day MC's model themselves and their lyrics after him tells u something<BR/>Top 4<BR/><BR/>Ice Cube at 8, its a stretch<BR/>On my list, he'd be at 14 or 15<BR/>Too much gangster BS, too hard, not enough skill or lyrics<BR/>Not a great flow, and very inconsistent in the years from 93 on<BR/>Ice Cube at 8, is like saying Mike Jones is a hiphop icon<BR/>Laughable!!<BR/><BR/>Eminem is a good lyricist, with good rhymes and a good flow<BR/>But he's a new cat, and he hasn't proven himself enough<BR/>In addition, his lyrics are childs play compared with the seriousness and poignant stuff that masters like KRS and Rakim spit<BR/>And by child's play, I mean his lyrics aren't serious, its like he's joking and writing a dirty lullaby throughout his raps<BR/>Not the best way to get u on a list of the "greatest MC's"<BR/>Canibus killed him when they had their beef, if anything Canibus deserves to be on the list<BR/>Eminem is too much hype and weak subject matter<BR/>Not top 10, maybe top 25<BR/><BR/>Not a fan of LL, but the man is emulated for his skill and savageness on the mic<BR/>He's good, b4 he wen't commercial<BR/>Top 10, yeah<BR/><BR/><BR/>With that said, here's my list:<BR/><BR/>1. Rakim<BR/>2. KRS One<BR/>3. Big Daddy Kane<BR/>4. Kool G Rap<BR/>5. Chuck D<BR/>6. Canibus<BR/>7. LL Cool J<BR/>8. Nas<BR/>9. Biggie Smalls<BR/>10. Ras Kass<BR/><BR/><BR/>Some that I haven't talked about: <BR/>Kool G Rap is the same or better than Big Daddy Kane, he's a legend that still gets mad love<BR/>He stampmarked the game with his skill and influence<BR/>He's on the list<BR/><BR/>Canibus is the best MC in the game.<BR/>No one can spit as much as he can, with flow and dexterity<BR/>Check out Poet Laureate II, and you'll know what Im talking about<BR/>This man has been tearing it up with his philosophical-scientific verses for years, yet he gets no love<BR/>He beat a legend, LL Cool J when they had their beef, meaning he's deserves to be in the same breath of LL Cool J and Nas<BR/><BR/>Ras Kass one phrase, punch lines<BR/>Simply amazing, just amazing<BR/>Nature of the Threat<BR/>Maybe Im pushing it since Im a Kass fan, but this is my only weakness <BR/><BR/>For all the Pac groupies in here...Pac was no Shakespeare, he was a hyped up version of the Game<BR/>Nuff said, he can't rhyme with the likes of Rakim<BR/>He had following, but due to his background<BR/>His verses were plain and boring<BR/>Not something that makes u say: damn, I can't believe he wrote that!<BR/>The man was deep, but not lyrically speaking<BR/>Hell, if he were still around, he'd be embarassed to be in front of Rakim or Chuck D or even CanibusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1147441961928389982006-05-12T06:52:00.000-07:002006-05-12T06:52:00.000-07:00I feel you and respect your opinion, so please don...I feel you and respect your opinion, so please don't take what I'm about to say as an attack on you because these are feelings that I have always had.<BR/><BR/>As the east coast bias, I don't particularly buy that because I just think the top ten having mostly east coast artists on it is because they just happen to be better. I love Scarface, and artists like that, but putting him anywhere near the top 10 would be done just because of some need to feel some quota of rappers outside of New York in some "special olympics" kind of way.<BR/><BR/>I agree that Tupac has influenced a lot of people, but it wasn't in a lyrical way like Rakim, or how Rakim revolutionalized a genre.<BR/><BR/>Tupac might have spoke about some social issues when he was alive, issues that others weren't talking about, but the mere fact that he didn't capitalize on his popularity and attempt to do some good makes him sort of a phony in my book. Also, most people love Tupac because of his vivid images of street life and struggles of that sort, which is cool, but the mere fact that he didn't become a thug until after he got a record contract puts him farther down my list to be totally honest.<BR/><BR/>Lyricsm is a huge part of this argument, since the title is the "Greatest MC's of all time". If it was the greatest rapper then I would understand. MC, Master Of Ceremony suggest an ability to rock a crowd, something that a huge percentage of the men on my list can do. I don't feel that way about Tupac. Plus, he never lit the microphone on fire so he definitely doesn't belong in a top ten.<BR/><BR/>Tha's just my opinion.The Humanity Critichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17952770577150500798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1147377931749436462006-05-11T13:05:00.000-07:002006-05-11T13:05:00.000-07:00Ok allow me to simply say this. I have been follo...Ok allow me to simply say this. I have been following the genre basically for as long as it has existed and I consider myself a student of rap music. There tends to be a lot of "East Coast Bias" against Tupac without looking at the major categories. They are:<BR/><BR/>Influence: This side of Rakim he has influenced more rappers than most people on the list.<BR/><BR/>Social Responsibility: He was just as political as at least 6 other guys on the list.<BR/><BR/>Commercialism: He did not bow to the pressures of commercialism like most rappers do.<BR/><BR/>Lyricism: Ok I can name a hundred other rappers with more lyricism but, that is not the only thing that makes a rapper.<BR/><BR/>Lyrical content: Tupac often spoke on things that other rappers of the time deemed to contraversial not to rap about.<BR/><BR/>All of that said should at least garner this man a top 10 spot. He is not number one on my list but, it is somewhat biased to simply leave the man off IMHO.<BR/><BR/>Check out my list.Words.worthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02748045138118333249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1146311490249297632006-04-29T04:51:00.000-07:002006-04-29T04:51:00.000-07:00If this was a list of the greatest "rapper" or "en...If this was a list of the greatest "rapper" or "entertainer", I could see leaving Pac off of a top 10 list being blasphemy. But the important word is MC here, which means that lyricsm is one of the most i portant factors here. Plainly, I never felt Pac, was more of a fan of his before he went to death row, and I seriously question the sanity of anyone who thinks he should be above Rakim or Big Daddy Kane on any Top 10 list this side of the equator.<BR/><BR/>Not only that, I know that most MC's talk about things that are fictional. From gunplay, to drug deals, I know that MC's tend to embellish on the mic. I'm cool with that. But based on the fact that most people who are true believers of Pac, quote him religiously like he is reciting bible scripture, and think he is the best rapper ever, think so because the think that he experienced all of those things. Well, being that he didn't become a thug until after he signed a record deal, to me he seems like a big ass phony.<BR/><BR/>So in my opinion, Pac doesn't even get a wiff of my top 10.The Humanity Critichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17952770577150500798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1146100529534765892006-04-26T18:15:00.000-07:002006-04-26T18:15:00.000-07:00What would jazz be with no soul in it, if there we...What would jazz be with no soul in it, if there were jus 1 way of playing it & it's mellow, always at a metzo forte (4 those who dont kno which is medium sound) what if a singer goes up & puts no energy 2 tha song, jsu says words, always soft spoken, & neva puttin any heart in2 it, what would soul music b without any feeling in it, what would rocc b if they jus yelled tha whole time neva got soft or anything, well if ur a tr hip hop fan u kno that rap came from all these types of music so y is rap tha only exception, 2pac is tha epitmoe of all that he's a rapper, otha ppl u name r lyricists, tha only point u said that Jay was betta than Pac is he had betta lyrics, well I thought yall was discussing tha best RAPPER, not tha best lyricist rapper 4 u idiots out there, that don't kno shyt bout rap, which I'm sartin 2 believe no1 does, u can't say u kno rap, without sayin u kno all of tha places it came from which probly none of yall so called brain trust & otha dumb f*ccs out there kno & 2pac aint got lyrics what have u heard me & My Girlfriend, nigga was talkin bout a gun when he made it 2 seem he as talkin bout a girl<BR/><BR/>Our first date, couldn't wait to see you naked<BR/>Touch you in every secret place, I can hardly wait<BR/>to bust freely, got you red hot, you so happy to see me<BR/>Make the frontpage primetime live on TV<BR/>Nigga my girlfriend, baby forty-five but she still live<BR/>One shot make a nigga's heartbeat stop<BR/><BR/>Couldnt wait 2 c u naked emptyin his clips, touch u in secret places referin 2 tha trigga, can;t wait 4 u 2 bust, as bust a nut but actucally bullets, cant wait 2 get u red hot, I mean if u can take apart all this u can c this is a perfect metaphor so thats not tight huh & tha thang is it onl took him 30 minuted 2 write tha ENTIRE song, come on most rappers couldnt do it in months mayb years if they can write somethin like that, don'e hate god damn, if u aint haerd everything b all the rappers u named don't say shyt have u heard Changes that shyt make u wanna shiver jus look at tha ryhme, how everything flows 2getha tha different ryming techniques he uses that r very complex<BR/><BR/>I see no changes all I see is racist faces<BR/>misplaced hate makes disgrace to races<BR/>We under I wonder what it takes to make this<BR/>one better place, let's erase the wasted<BR/>Take the evil out the people they'll be acting right<BR/>'cause both black and white is smokin' crack tonight<BR/>and only time we chill is when we kill each other<BR/>it takes skill to be real, time to heal each other<BR/>And although it seems heaven sent We ain't ready, to see a black President, uhh<BR/>It ain't a secret don't conceal the fact<BR/>the penitentiary's packed, and it's filled with blacks<BR/>But some things will never change<BR/>try to show another way but you stayin' in the dope game<BR/>Now tell me what's a mother to do bein' real don't appeal to the brother in you<BR/>You gotta operate the easy way<BR/>"I made a G today" But you made it in a sleazy way<BR/>sellin' crack to the kid. " I gotta get paid,"<BR/>Well hey, well that's the way it is<BR/><BR/>But I guess bein real don't appeal 2 a lot of ppl but its still good cuz he still sold ova 67 million records in tha US alone which is a record, so damn if I knew bein garbage would sell me ova 65 million cd's I'll go do it, but D4L sure aint sell tha much & he aint garbage, DFB didnt sell that much & they succ 4real, get ur game right, 3/4 of u niggaz r bias 4 tha east coast & I believe yall put Pac at 2 so it wont make it seem like ur biased cuz u said u originally had Big at 1, then all tha sudden he went 2 3, jus so it wont seem bias but yall aint foolin me, go around tha world & ask whose tha best, go 2 any internet site, & c poll results of whose tha best, which leads me 2 really think I REALLY don't think yall kno hip hop like yall think yall doAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145926586042866152006-04-24T17:56:00.000-07:002006-04-24T17:56:00.000-07:00Jay-Z as the Number 1 MC of all-time???I think not...Jay-Z as the Number 1 MC of all-time???<BR/><BR/>I think not.nosthegametoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15005468034674523780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145410807630962852006-04-18T18:40:00.000-07:002006-04-18T18:40:00.000-07:00Here is a list that you can work with.1. Rakim2. N...Here is a list that you can work with.<BR/><BR/>1. Rakim<BR/>2. Nas<BR/>3. Jay Z<BR/>4. KRS-1<BR/>5. Biggie Samlls<BR/>6. Big Daddy Kane<BR/>7. Public Enemy<BR/>8. A Tribe Called Quest<BR/>9. LL Cool J<BR/>10. Foxy BrownAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145747905156873072006-04-22T16:18:00.000-07:002006-04-22T16:18:00.000-07:00Well, I guess in order to argue this issue, you ha...Well, I guess in order to argue this issue, you have to decide what criteria you are using to rate a great MC. Going by the criteria MTV used, a great MC was one who could flow about anything, make you stop and think, and could impact a person's life with the way they said it. In my opinion, Jay-Z's money and position had a little too much of an impact on their decision. As far as your list goes, I think you based yours heavily on lyrical ability, which is no doubt an important part of being a great MC. But being a Great not only has to do with how you say things, but what you're saying. I know you've probably been lectured about 2Pac 8 million times now, but a list without him at #1 ... much less in the top 10 ... is a travesty. The guy may not have been as lyrically eloquent as Rakim, and the likes of others on your top 10, but he was damn good. The guy talked about anything and everything with a passion that no one can match. And doesn't the sound of an MC's voice count for anything? His was powerful, moving, and at times fierce. Jay-Z sounds the same in every freaking song ... no variation in my mind. I do still like a lot of Jay's songs, but I don't like how much he bites off other artist's lyrics. (Sure they all quote each other, but come on, Jay.) Plus his debacle of a remake of "Me and My Girlfriend" automatically puts him down a couple notches in my book. Big I personally don't prefer, but I can respect his talent. To me the sound of his voice was kinda annoying. And I can't remember who said it (another MC), but 2Pac simply made great songs. He may not tear up every MC in a freestyle battle, but the guy's aresenal in the studio is beyond belief. Great songs should have great lyrics, great beats, and a great passion. His greatest hits CD is only scratching the surface, but please do go back and listen to songs like Keep Ya Head Up, Hail Mary, Toss It Up, Hit Em Up, etc. (Too many to list.) He's not someone you can just dismiss. Him dying too soon is beside the point. I don't think he was overrated because of his untimely death. (Biggie, on the other hand, was.) Pac was a loving son, a political voice, a convict, a womanizer, an eloquent speaker, a wrathful enemy, and so much more ... all blended into one being. And we believed every part of him.<BR/><BR/>That said, I do think you made some valid points in your critiques. Rakim is a beast, so I can't hate on him. Anyway, sorry this is so long. I get worked up bout my hip hop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145629666553656992006-04-21T07:27:00.000-07:002006-04-21T07:27:00.000-07:00You were on point about Ricland. ANd why you post ...You were on point about Ricland. ANd why you post that question if you ain't going to answer it?MZPEACHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05829920267865962347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145635044527334302006-04-21T08:57:00.000-07:002006-04-21T08:57:00.000-07:00I think a top ten is too difficult to make. There ...I think a top ten is too difficult to make. There are to many greats to consolidate into 10 artist. A top 25 is more realistic so you can cover the whole spectrum of colorful MC's.Inside Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04355812934087179553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145610268559342702006-04-21T02:04:00.000-07:002006-04-21T02:04:00.000-07:00son you've gotta give mr jones some dap. re-listen...son you've gotta give mr jones some dap. re-listened to "Oochie Walli" yesterday and it's a bloody good tune. I think he's judged on the daily by "illmatic". but i dig cos' like u (and ghostface) i'm stuck somewhere b/w 1986 and 1996. why did the rappers really care back then? ahhh the smell of fresh bank notes.chromehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17338912618994331113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145568184796865822006-04-20T14:23:00.000-07:002006-04-20T14:23:00.000-07:00To further respond to the comment of Biggie bringi...To further respond to the comment of Biggie bringing NY back to NY, actually, it wasn't really Biggie, nor Jay Z. They were on the quiet circuit trying to get on. Dead Presidents was on the mixtape roster, and Biggie was Partyin' and Bullshittin'. At that time, it was more or less a movement of hungry cats, i.e. Wu-Tang, Mobb Deep, Duck Down, and others I can mention. And, before we can really rep Big, you have to give props to the true golden boy of Bad Boy at the time...Craig Mack...<BR/><BR/>Just. Like. Uniblab....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145569020399280182006-04-20T14:37:00.000-07:002006-04-20T14:37:00.000-07:00Who is Manjula and why doesn't he ever post anythi...Who is Manjula and why doesn't he ever post anything? Don't read that rude.MZPEACHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05829920267865962347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145569104110271642006-04-20T14:38:00.000-07:002006-04-20T14:38:00.000-07:00Reese The Law Girl has spoke. And Reese is the tru...Reese The Law Girl has spoke. And Reese is the truth!...lol.MZPEACHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05829920267865962347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145565251918126722006-04-20T13:34:00.000-07:002006-04-20T13:34:00.000-07:00my take.. ahemhttp://selfra.blogspot.commy take.. ahem<BR/>http://selfra.blogspot.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13205384167481897308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145559615089143392006-04-20T12:00:00.000-07:002006-04-20T12:00:00.000-07:00@Jarrod HalseyTalib KweliMos DefBlack ThoughtKRS O...@Jarrod Halsey<BR/><BR/>Talib Kweli<BR/>Mos Def<BR/>Black Thought<BR/>KRS One<BR/>Melle Mel<BR/>R.Z.A.<BR/>Jeru <BR/><BR/>I can think of more but there is no way you can say these cats "dumb down" their lyrics.Amadeohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07824458171389497321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145564039725144192006-04-20T13:13:00.000-07:002006-04-20T13:13:00.000-07:00I wasn't going to comment because I know people fe...I wasn't going to comment because I know people feel differently about Hip Hop but..<BR/><BR/>"it's not so much the fact that I disagree w/you on your list that bothers me but the fact that you seem to think your opinion is the way the truth and the light and no one gets to the Hip Hop father but by yo"<BR/><BR/>I think the part where I said "...but tell me what your personal top 10 is because I don't claim to be the Yoda of Hip Hop knowledge or anything." should let you know that I don't consider myself an authority.The Humanity Critichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17952770577150500798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145555887580754232006-04-20T10:58:00.000-07:002006-04-20T10:58:00.000-07:00Why is it, East Coasters, that Pac is overrated bu...Why is it, East Coasters, that Pac is overrated but not Biggie...I mean really. I give props where props rare due and Jay and Nas are that ish (actually so was DMX before the crack) but BIG gets the love and credit that he does becuase he brought back New York during a time when it was all about the West Coast. His albums have no depth, don't get me wrong it's something I can dance to at a club, but where's the at least one song not about blunts, guns, hoes, or partying...you would be hard pressed to find one...but whatever, my list would have definitly included Scarface but I guess bc. he's a southerner he's automatically not qualified...come on now that sounds as ridiculous to me (a non-southerner) as Pac being included in the top ten sounds to you; it's not so much the fact that I disagree w/you on your list that bothers me but the fact that you seem to think your opinion is the way the truth and the light and no one gets to the Hip Hop father but by you...then again, this is your blog (that I read all the time might I add) so why shouldn't your opinion rule...so carry on and ignore my post :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145553689603386642006-04-20T10:21:00.000-07:002006-04-20T10:21:00.000-07:00i don't know the criteria used by MTV but its susp...i don't know the criteria used by MTV but its suspect. I will say i am surprised because most mainstream outlets will throw NElly and Ja Rule in the mix (like you said). but MTV is suspect. i have issues with their pics. i guess i have to blog abou tit...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13205384167481897308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145550109404650422006-04-20T09:21:00.000-07:002006-04-20T09:21:00.000-07:00I used to defend Em too. But, if I hear another s...I used to defend Em too. But, if I hear another song about his kid I'm going to personally go to Detroit and stick him in the trunk of a car. <BR/><BR/>Seriously, how many "Halley" songs do we have to endure? Bleh!<BR/><BR/>Anyways, Jay-Z, as cool as he is, is overrated at #1. I chalk that up to MTV trying to make the list relevant to their demographic (fetuses-18 years old). I would have been happy with Tupac at #1.Reese The Law Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14673830176464850967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145548752659046802006-04-20T08:59:00.000-07:002006-04-20T08:59:00.000-07:00Because the discussion originated here..Because the discussion originated here..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145544623304530602006-04-20T07:50:00.000-07:002006-04-20T07:50:00.000-07:00Why didn't you say that on his blog? Didn't know o...Why didn't you say that on his blog? Didn't know one even know he wrote that post.MZPEACHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05829920267865962347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145542041237839032006-04-20T07:07:00.000-07:002006-04-20T07:07:00.000-07:00WOW!WOW!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145541762432442032006-04-20T07:02:00.000-07:002006-04-20T07:02:00.000-07:00You are right J, arguing on the internet is retard...You are right J, arguing on the internet is retarded, so is thinking Jay-Z is the best rapper ever.<BR/><BR/>"Why wouldn’t this apply to<BR/>rappers?"<BR/><BR/>Because in Hip Hop, album sales never equated to a quality product, which you were referring to in your defense of S. Carter. Illmatic is one of the best albums ever and it just went platinum a while ago, so to dangle Jay-Z's success out there as some sort of proof of how dope he is makes you look foolish.<BR/><BR/>"But when you consistently have big record sales for years and years, you have HAVE to make it a factor in your argument."<BR/><BR/>But when you apply that same argument to Eminem, a man who's album sales have crushed Jay's while having a lower quality product, your point of view becomes a head scratcher.<BR/><BR/>"One of the things that even Jay-Z haters admit is that Jay-Z is prolly the most quotable MC of all time."<BR/><BR/>Besides me never hearing that from anyone and you pulling that out of your ass, lets see. More quotable than "I take 7 MC's.." line by Rakim? Nope. I won't quote biggie since Jay does that enough. "Roxanne Shante is steady fucking.." line by KRS? Nope. The "Up-up-up and away cause I don't play clown" line by G Rap? Nope. Fuck man, I can go like this all day.<BR/><BR/>"You will have a hard time convincing me that he’s not #1."<BR/><BR/>Do you still believe in Santa Claus?<BR/><BR/>"All my man did was hold you down TEN STRAIGHT SUMMERS. WHO DOES THAT?!"<BR/><BR/>Crack dealers? Thanks for the shout out on your blog though, even if it did surround the defense of an overrated rapper..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9807422.post-1145515023348726552006-04-19T23:37:00.000-07:002006-04-19T23:37:00.000-07:00These type of lists are retarded.But I seem to agr...These type of lists are retarded.<BR/>But I seem to agree with you on every point.<BR/>The Tupac comments are spot on. His fans are incredibly naive & always seem hell bent on letting you know in their twisted sms language. I agree he is now just an iconic figure relegated to extreme worship. He was a better actor than an emcee. And yes Biggie's passing placed him higher than he probably should have been. KRS's body of work overshadows his recent shortcomings & hypocrisies. Even Kool Kieth's body of work, originality, unique ideas, etc... shits on many. (Check his Project Polaroid for some 'about friggin' time' good solid KK material). Where's DITC? I'd rate Lord Finesse, AG & OC over Cube, Pac... Jay Z just gets tiring & I can't say listening to millionaires rap about shit is really my thing. <BR/><BR/>Yes, where's Melle Mel or even Caz for example? <BR/><BR/>Always creates a massive stupid amount of dialogue if not anything else.idiotproof67https://www.blogger.com/profile/12205308413736799031noreply@blogger.com